These are still early days in the 2003 J.League season, but officials must be more than a little concerned about events down in Kansai.
Or lack of events may be more appropriate.
J.League chairman Masaru Suzuki was hoping that this year would be a breakthrough season for the Kansai clubs, and that interest would be at an all-time high with four teams in the top flight: Gamba and promoted Cerezo, Emperor's Cup holder Purple Sanga, and Vissel Kobe.
But so far it's been a big disappointment, and the fans are already giving their verdict.
Just take a look at last Saturday's games.
Vissel Kobe attracted only 6,325 for their home game against Vegalta Sendai at the Kobe Wing World Cup Stadium.
This is a terrible turnout for Vissel, considering they had won handsomely 3-0 at Ichihara the previous weekend. If they had beaten Sendai, Vissel could have gone top of the table with nine points, at least until the next day when Yokohama F Marinos played Oita Trinita.
In the event, Vissel lost 2-1, a result which may have frightened even more people off.
It was even worse down in Suita City, where only 4,828 turned up at Banpaku to watch Gamba Osaka play JEF United Ichihara.
These are two attractive teams, and proved it by playing to a 3-3 draw.
Gamba fans do not want excitement, though. They want victories, points and trophies.
Gamba were my tip for the championship before the season kicked off, and I still feel they have enough quality players to mount a challenge at some point.
At the moment they have only five points, five off the pace being set by Marinos, but still with 11 games to play in the first stage.
Again Gamba let themselves down badly against Jubilo, drawing 1-1 at home when a 1-0 victory would have given them a huge psychological lift.
Then they lost 3-2 at Oita, giving Trinita their first victory in the top division.
With Cerezo Osaka capable of scoring goals but unpredictable, and Purple Sanga struggling to match last season's efforts, already it looks bleak for Kansai.
The region needs some inspiration from somewhere.
And hopefully, for the sake of the J.League, it will come quickly.
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